- 00:17:54 Tanner Seidman: It’s a tool for thought! Thats what we’re all about!
- 00:18:52 Jack Park: interchange: knowledge federation
- 00:19:05 Bill Seitz: http://webseitz.fluxent.com/wiki/DigitalGardenStandards
- 00:19:15 Bill Seitz: http://webseitz.fluxent.com/wiki/WebsOfThinkersAndThoughts
- 00:29:04 Boris Mann: Are things like calendars / calendar events a first class type?
- 00:34:07 Jess Martin: ohhhh I love this - I’ve wanted to build a customizable “home page” for myself for a while
- 00:34:13 Bill Seitz: What can I do on my phone?
- 00:34:32 Boris Mann: @bill Electron only today I believe
- 00:34:42 Jack Park: Wow!
- 00:36:51 Jack Park: https://github.com/unigraph-dev
- 00:37:14 Jess Martin: Reminds me of Rosano’s home-grown queueing systems he set up for the
- different “intakes” he has: podcasts, yt videos, tweets, etc
- 00:38:08 Jess Martin: WOOO edit the app inside the app!
- 00:41:58 Jess Martin: oh dang, that’s nice
- 00:46:14 Sophia Xu: Project home: https://unigraph.dev Discord community: https://discord.gg/vDTkKar5Vz Waiting list sign-up: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfmS1BUZNF6wprSGU08XpCcM-UWh5BEMwuQ8gweBGIH7SSD8w/viewform?usp=sf_link My Twitter: https://twitter.com/thesophiaxu If you know about a seed investment opportunity, send me a Twitter DM!
- 00:50:59 Jess Martin: distributed graph not just a distributed system question, also a major UX question!
- 00:51:09 Jess Martin: public/private space, etc
- 00:54:23 Jess Martin: feels more like a replacement for the operating system than a tool for thought… as a good TFT should :)
- 00:55:21 Boris Mann: Power tools add on. Alfred. etc.
- 00:58:17 Christopher Galtenberg: The “social emotional” line was so good, I’m going to have to transcribe that for myself 😄
- 00:59:10 Kushan : How are you planning to keep things from outside in sync ? For example , I delete a tweet after I have pulled it in to unigraph
- 00:59:31 @chadkoh: Can/will we be able to open multiple windows/tabs simultaneously?
- 01:03:45 Boris Mann: I can imagine pointing this at a collection of markdown files
- 01:04:03 Boris Mann: Everything is a sync problem 🙂
- 01:04:05 Jess Martin: ☝️ this
- 01:04:07 Boris Mann: Or a search problem.
- 01:06:08 Tanner Seidman: I wonder how difficult it would be to make a plugin for the different methods, like org-roam or logseq
- 01:06:14 Tudor Girba: thank you! great work!
- 01:06:16 Tanner Seidman: Thanks!
- 01:06:19 Jack Park: Thanks Sophia!
- 01:06:31 Boris Mann: Sync: depends on the API in part
- 01:06:46 @chadkoh: Great job Sophia 👏 👏 👏
- 01:07:00 Marc-Antoine Parent: Very impressive!
- 01:07:28 Michael Gartner: Ctrl-A
- 01:07:34 Michael Gartner: maybe
- 01:07:51 Michael Gartner: nevermind
- 01:16:02 Jess Martin: the similarities between GToolkit and Unigraph, at least in spirit, are fascinating… amazing watching these two back-to-back
- 01:18:16 Bill Seitz: cf http://webseitz.fluxent.com/wiki/LiterateProgramming
- 01:19:22 Bill Seitz: TheoryBuilding http://webseitz.fluxent.com/wiki/2011-04-20-LeanAgileProductionVsTheoryBuilding
- 01:20:11 Boris Mann: Lepiter https://lepiter.com
- 01:22:16 Jess Martin: …of searching for a missing semicolon for 8 hours…
- 01:22:58 Bill Seitz: composability, etc.
- 01:23:11 Bill Seitz: fix your thoughts in production
- 01:23:30 Jess Martin: think by coding
- 01:24:26 Jess Martin: he could make it scroll pixel by pixel instead of line-by-line ;)
- 01:24:44 Boris Mann: Avi Bryant#dabbledb demo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCVj5RZOqwY
- 01:24:56 Bill Seitz: http://webseitz.fluxent.com/wiki/DabbleDB
- 01:25:44 Boris Mann: I should just have a redirect where if my system doesn’t have a slug, it just goes to Bill’s site!
- 01:26:05 Jess Martin: that’s an amazing idea
- 01:26:07 Rob Haisfield: Tudor, would you please explain the difference between implicit and explicit references?
- 01:26:51 Marc-Antoine Parent: Just downloaded, thank you! Awesome work.
- 01:27:02 Sophia Xu: ^ is it like Roam where it’s linked vs unlinked references
- 01:27:12 Jess Martin: workflow > tools
- 01:27:33 Jess Martin: also, mediums > tools - when you say “kinds of thoughts”, it sounds like you’re referring to different mediums
- 01:27:41 Orion Reed: This ^
- 01:28:04 Jess Martin: I wrote about this a bit last week: https://jessmart.in/articles/tools
- 01:28:37 Jess Martin: +100000 to diff views of same object
- 01:30:54 Bill Seitz: in most languages, a “file” contains lots of code “nodes”, is that also true here?
- 01:32:27 Bill Seitz: mentality kinda reminds me of Emails → OrgMode, etc.
- 01:33:15 Bill Seitz: (“Emails” → Emacs)
- 01:33:51 Sophia Xu: ^^
- 01:34:19 Jess Martin: again, seems like we’re moving from TFT -> Operating System. Which I love to see. “Lepiter became the core” is super interesting.
- 01:35:23 Rob Haisfield: Newmacs
- 01:36:09 Jess Martin: The emacs / orgmode reference is apropos - seems like emacs user just default to extending emacs to support their use case rather than having to leave the “environment” they’re in
- 01:36:26 Jess Martin: *users
- 01:37:28 Bill Seitz: I wonder whether we’re waiting for equivalent to be based on a Functional language….
- 01:38:05 Jess Martin: @Bill can you say more about that?
- 01:38:06 Rob Haisfield: Bill can you elaborate on that? What’s the difference between this sort of thing being object oriented like Pharo-based Lepiter and functional?
- 01:38:33 Bill Seitz: I’m not sure… just feels like Smalltalk is the Nuclear Fusion of languages/stacks.
- 01:38:39 Bill Seitz: always 20 years away
- 01:38:47 Jess Martin: programming = executable philosophy ❤️
- 01:38:54 Jess Martin: @bill hahah got it
- 01:40:02 Bill Seitz: And I feel like the Next Thing needs to be cloud-native…. http://webseitz.fluxent.com/wiki/PersonalCloud
- 01:40:44 Bill Seitz: So a dumb phone can be a client.
- 01:40:59 Bill Seitz: (Actually, not Dumb, just Locked)
- 01:41:00 Boris Mann: Blogging / social media brought people to a wider discourse (For good and ill)
- 01:41:10 Boris Mann: This feels like “citizen programming” in a similar way
- 01:41:36 Boris Mann: TFT feels connected to blogging, but when you start programming it becomes a different thing
- 01:42:24 Jess Martin: strong agree with Bill re: cloud-native. “local-first” is a nice tag line, but it should really be “distributed-first” or something along those lines. “local-first” is often opposed to “cloud-first.”
- 01:43:03 Tanner Seidman: Or ideally, for me at least- local-cloud first
- 01:43:05 Jess Martin: @boris: I think of “simulation” as the bridge between thinking and programming. If I’m not trying to engineer a production thing, but I’m reasoning about some ideas, I might want to use some code to simulate something about the knowledge.
- 01:43:15 Boris Mann: That’s a programmer view
- 01:43:32 Jess Martin: maybe. financial analysts take that view.
- 01:43:33 Boris Mann: I’m trying to figure out how a mass market user base begins to do these things more … or if they will
- 01:43:47 Rob Haisfield: ^Jess yes. When Tudor first demoed Lepiter to me, I just thought about modeling information moreso than programming
- 01:44:09 Boris Mann: Definitely like Jupiter notebooks or whatever
- 01:44:11 Bill Seitz: Spreadsheet as gateway… http://webseitz.fluxent.com/wiki/NoCode
- 01:44:15 Bill Seitz: Yes Jupyter
- 01:44:27 wesley: @Boris, what about TfT curricula in public schools?
- 01:44:27 Boris Mann: I talked to Dylan Steck / Cortex and he’s playing with spreadsheets and financial / budget data
- 01:44:43 Sophia Xu: Gotta run but t\hank you Tudor for this amazing presentation!
- 01:44:46 Boris Mann: So all of a sudden your grocery bill and shopping lists … a very personal item … becomes programmable
- 01:44:58 Boris Mann: Thanks Sophia — we’ll get your slides and post in a week or so.
- 01:45:33 Bill Seitz: Spreadsheet as fundamental UI pattern?
- 01:45:36 @chadkoh: Thank you!